{"id":137,"date":"2022-01-22T16:16:32","date_gmt":"2022-01-22T16:16:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/?page_id=137"},"modified":"2023-01-16T22:23:42","modified_gmt":"2023-01-16T22:23:42","slug":"19-what-happened-to-the-other-members-of-his-family","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/19-what-happened-to-the-other-members-of-his-family\/","title":{"rendered":"What happened to Jack&#8217;s family?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Did Jack\u2019s family ever find out about his fate, his time on the prison hulk or on the convict ship, or his death? It is not known, but probably unlikely.<\/p>\n<p>So, what happened to Jack\u2019s mother, Mary, as well as his brothers (Nathanael, William and Samuel) and his sister, Susannah?<\/p>\n<p>Because of the limited records available it is not easy to discover their full movements, but this is what I have unearthed,<\/p>\n<p><strong>MARY: Jack&#8217;s <\/strong><b> mother<\/b>\u00a0died in 1824 (at age of 95) and was buried in Blean church on 8 December 1823.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>NATHANAEL: Jack&#8217;s older brother <\/strong>(born 1759) married Anne Darby (1770)\u00a0in Hackington, Kent on 7 June 1791. This was 6 months after Jack&#8217;s transportation.<\/p>\n<p>They had 4 children: Mary Ann (Jul-Sep 1791), Sarah (1792-), Nathaniel (1795-1882) and William (1798-1800)<\/p>\n<p>Nathaniel died in 1801 Hackington, Kent (age 41). Anne died in 1805 (age 35).<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>WILLIAM: Jack&#8217;s younger brother <\/strong>(born 1766) is not found in any records until\u00a01839 when he enters the Blean Workhouse (age 73).<\/p>\n<p>As noted earlier, prior to 1834, each parish took care of its own poor, including collecting a rate to cover costs and administering relief. Known as &#8220;parish relief). The New Poor Law and its records began in 1834 and continued until 1948 when it was replaced by the National Health Care system. . The <strong>Blean Union Workhouse<\/strong>\u00a0had been built on four acres south of Herne Common.<\/p>\n<p>The only record of the death of a William Kirby to be found is in 1864 which would have made him 98 years old, so this is probably unlikely but not impossible.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>SUSANNAH: Jack&#8217;s sister <\/strong>(born 1769) married <strong>William Ansel<\/strong>l on\u00a012 November 1792 and they had 3 sons, William (1793-1850), Henry (1796-) and James (1799-1867).<\/p>\n<p>Susannah\u2019s husband, William, died in 1805 (age 40) and she died in\u00a01858 in Eastry, Kent aged 89.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>SAMUEL: Jack&#8217;s brother<\/strong> (born 1764)<\/p>\n<p>Jack\u2019s brother\u00a0(born in 1764) is an intriguing case. According to the <em>UK, Naval Officer and Rating Service Records<\/em>, from 1793 (age 28) and shortly after Jack\u2019s transportation until 1808 Samuel Kirby served as an Able Seaman in the Royal Navy. This is Samuel&#8217;s service record.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-803\" src=\"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Screenshot-2022-03-07-at-17.01.15-1024x659.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"980\" height=\"631\" srcset=\"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Screenshot-2022-03-07-at-17.01.15-1024x659.png 1024w, http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Screenshot-2022-03-07-at-17.01.15-300x193.png 300w, http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Screenshot-2022-03-07-at-17.01.15-768x494.png 768w, http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Screenshot-2022-03-07-at-17.01.15-1536x989.png 1536w, http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Screenshot-2022-03-07-at-17.01.15-690x444.png 690w, http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Screenshot-2022-03-07-at-17.01.15-980x631.png 980w, http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Screenshot-2022-03-07-at-17.01.15.png 1734w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 980px) 100vw, 980px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Samuel first served on HMS Success. According to <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/HMS_Success_(1781)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wikipedia<\/a>\u00a0the ship had undergone a refit in 1783.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\"><em>&#8220;\u2026 she was recommissioned in February 1793 under the command of Captain Francis Roberts, and was ready for sea by April \u00a0..On 25 August she sailed for the Caribbean, where Roberts died the following year, and on 1 September 1794 the notorious Captain\u00a0Hugh Pigot\u00a0was appointed to command her. \u00a0She captured the French brig\u00a0Poisson Volant\u00a0on 30 September 1795.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The last ship Samuel served on was HMS Cruizer. According to <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/HMS_Cruizer_(1797)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wikipedia<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\"><em>\u201cHMS\u00a0Cruizer\u00a0(often\u00a0Cruiser) was a\u00a0Royal Navy\u00a0Cruizer-class brig-sloop\u00a0built by Stephen Teague of\u00a0Ipswich\u00a0and launched in 1797. She was the first ship of the class, but there was a gap of 5 years between her launch and the ordering of the next batch in October 1803; by 1815 a total of 105 other vessels had been ordered to her design. She had an eventful wartime career, mostly in the North Sea, English Channel and the Baltic, and captured some 15 privateers and warships, and many merchant vessels\u201d.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What Samuel did after he left Navy service is not clear. There are no further records until \u00a01836 when he is admitted to the Bridge\u00a0Union Workhouse. \u00a0This had opened for new inmates in October 1835, so he was one of the early ones.<\/p>\n<p>The 1841 census records him living in the Workhouse (age 75, a \u00a0labourer), where he died in July 1841 (age 80).<a href=\"applewebdata:\/\/A8B3E973-45F5-447D-A730-641E2C7B34AD#_ednref1\" name=\"_edn1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&gt; <a href=\"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/joseph-kirby-and-anne-clements-my-4-x-great-grandparents\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Joseph Kirby and Anne Clements\u00a0<\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>Last updated: January 16, 2023 at 22:23 pm<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Did Jack\u2019s family ever find out about his fate, his time on the prison hulk or on the convict ship, or his death? It is not known, but probably unlikely. So, what happened to Jack\u2019s mother, Mary, as well as his brothers (Nathanael, William and Samuel) and his sister, Susannah? Because of the limited records [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/137"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=137"}],"version-history":[{"count":50,"href":"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/137\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":891,"href":"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/137\/revisions\/891"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/janehart.com\/jackkirby\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=137"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}